Tim talks with Debbie Cox Bultan, CEO of NewDEAL, and Canton Mayor Zeb Smathers. The national group held a conference in Raleigh and stopped by while in town. NewDEAL is a network of center-left, self-described pragmatists, of elected leaders focused on results to expand opportunity, spur growth, and seek progress. Alums of the group include Pete Buttigieg, Josh Shapiro, and Stacey Abrams.